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YOUR VIEWS Leeds lapdancing outrage - updated July 16



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Published Date: 11 July 2008
We asked for your views on a row about the licencing of lapdancing clubs in Leeds.
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I suspect Leeds has currently got too many lap dancing clubs for them all to prosper and two2 or three will close down in time anyway but this licensing business is just an excuse for the forces of prudery to ban something again.

People like Object spin " the same licensing as a Starbucks" when in fact a fairer description would be " the same licensing as a nightclub, cabaret club, gay bar, or late night music venue".

I'm not sure I belive the woman's experiences at 5.15 am at the railway station was anything to do lap dance patrons, which is the club near the station? The new Purple Door hasn't opened yet, there is of course a large normal nightclub opposite the Queens, where the rowdys from there I wonder?

I asked Leeds Police about how lap dancing clubs compared to disco type places in terms of trouble and disturbance in 2006 and they told me that there are six venues in Leeds (Blue Leopard, Red Leopard, Blue Coyote, Buffalo lounge, DV8, and Purple Door) plus two in Wakefield (Wildcats and Jailbirds. In 2005 these clubs had a total of six visits an average of less than one per club. In contrast five conventional Leeds city centre nightclubs had a total of 120 visits, an average of 21 each.
Bill
Doncaster

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The views expressed on lap dancing clubs - well come on, we have brothels all over Leeds (well known to everyone including the police). They are on the whole a well run night club and of the strictest of rules and anyone breaking the rules and operating outside of them offering sex for sale should be hit hard.

I don't have any objection to them at all and would not have any objection if there were the same for females wanting a male lap dance. Or is that the problem because they are aimed at the male client?
Phil

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I think it is discusting how many lapdancing clubs there are in leeds- especially the amount around the train station. My friends were walking home from a night out the other night at 5.15 AM and people were standing outside a lapdancing club smoking and propositioning us! how discusting.

Also I think this new 1million pound club right next door to the train station entrance is an awful and unreasonable idea; as normal people including young children use that entrance on a daily basis and we dont want to contantly walk past a discusting "sex" club. what sort of message is this portraying!

Also it will not be very safe to walk by in the evenings as many of the clubs 'customers' will be standing outside smoking and hollering at young girls etc. it will not make for a safe environment. I walk through the train station at night to get home because I feel it is a safer envirnment, as it is all lit up etc instead of walking round the side of it. However I WONT ( and many others will agree) feel safe having to walk past a bunch of people possibly wanting some "action" whether this is being insulted by coments made by them or propositions. this could result in much more dangerous situations.

anon.

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I very much agree with the campaign to relicense lap dancing clubs. It just seems like common sense to give local authorities and residents a say in whether/how many of these places they want in their area. It is of course an entirely different thing to have a lap dancing club down your local street than to have a cafe. The existence of these clubs, particlularly on the high street, cannot be married with a society which wants to promote equality and respect for its citizens. Good luck with the campaign, Object!
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EQS,

Leeds 15/07/2008 16:51:50
I think it is very sad that the Government has allowed these apalling places to open up everywhere.These clubs are degrading to all women.No one should have to strip naked and dance for money for a strange man in a private booth.Why should women have to put up with their partners/husbands visiting these whorehouses and being told its "harmless fun"-seeking sexual gratification by cavorting with strippers is on a par with infidelity.Wake up girls -these clubs are not justabout girls dancing around in bikinis-your blokes are being aroused and entertained by fully nude strippers giving a very "up close and personal" private dance in a private booth.Many men expect more than just a dance as well.Most men do not tell their partners what really goes on in these places because they do not want them to know!These clubs should be closed down - it is not right that a man thinks he has the right to "buy" a woman.I think it is scandalous that the council has allowed our city centre to become "pornified" and has normalised this degrading treatment of women. Leeds city centre is not a nice place to go out on a night-at weekends you see groups of revolting men on stag nights and mid-week its the drunken,middle aged businessmen visiting their "gentlemens clubs"-a ridiculous misnomer as men who visit such places are anything but gentlemen,indeed most women think men who go to strip clubs are the lowest of the low. In parts of the country where these clubs have proliferated the incidence of rape has gone up by 50%.An expansion in the number of lap dancing clubs feeds an increase in the disrespect for women,they undermine relationships and devalue love and fidelity.These clubs are incompatible with a society that wants to promote respect,dignity and equality between the sexes.
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EQS,

Leeds 15/07/2008 16:53:39
I think it is very sad that the Government has allowed these apalling places to open up everywhere.These clubs are degrading to all women.No one should have to strip naked and dance for money for a strange man in a private booth.Why should women have to put up with their partners/husbands visiting these whorehouses and being told its "harmless fun"-seeking sexual gratification by cavorting with strippers is on a par with infidelity.Wake up girls -these clubs are not justabout girls dancing around in bikinis-your blokes are being aroused and entertained by fully nude strippers giving a very "up close and personal" private dance in a private booth.Many men expect more than just a dance as well.Most men do not tell their partners what really goes on in these places because they do not want them to know!These clubs should be closed down - it is not right that a man thinks he has the right to "buy" a woman.I think it is scandalous that the council has allowed our city centre to become "pornified" and has normalised this degrading treatment of women. Leeds city centre is not a nice place to go out on a night-at weekends you see groups of revolting men on stag nights and mid-week its the drunken,middle aged businessmen visiting their "gentlemens clubs"-a ridiculous misnomer as men who visit such places are anything but gentlemen,indeed most women think men who go to strip clubs are the lowest of the low. In parts of the country where these clubs have proliferated the incidence of rape has gone up by 50%.An expansion in the number of lap dancing clubs feeds an increase in the disrespect for women,they undermine relationships and devalue love and fidelity.These clubs are incompatible with a society that wants to promote respect,dignity and equality between the sexes.
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EQS,

15/07/2008 17:10:26
Lap dancing clubs degrade all women everywhere.It is not right that men think they can "buy" a woman and watch her strip for him in a private room or booth and then watch her dance provocatively.Men who are married or have a partner and visit strip clubs are the lowest of the low.Their behaviour is on a par with infidelity.These clubs are incompatible with a society that wants to promote respect and dignity between the sexes as they undermine relationships and devalue love and fidelity.AN increase in the number of lap dancing clubs feeds an increase in the lack of respect for women and such places should be closed down.
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dosomething,

leeds 09/08/2008 20:43:57
Why not just turn the whole of Leeds into a brothel, then visitors can assume that every female they see is available for sex. That's the way Leeds is already going, which is odd for a city responsible for so many students living away from home for the first time, and wanting to feel safe. Alternatively you've got 7 days to contact Leeds City Council Licensing, asking them to support the reclassification of lap dancing clubs as Sexual Encounter Establishments, which will finally give councils the power to stop them opening anywhere, regardless of public outcry. Do it now, before the proposed lapdancing "superclub" opens in City Square, and really does turn Leeds into the scuzzy exploitative dump it's fast becoming. Do it now, or it will be too late...!
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